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@@ -18,6 +18,9 @@ service information, diagrams, related devices, and compatibility notes.
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and practical notes for repair/protocol reverse engineering.
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- [Discovery Notes](discovery-notes.md) - hands-on bench observations kept
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separate from manual-derived facts.
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- [PT2 State Map](pt2-state-map.md) - working protocol-state map showing current
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selector/context branches, downstream response families, and likely state
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transitions.
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## High-Value Starting Points
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@@ -5362,3 +5362,195 @@ Best current follow-up:
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- test exact and host-shaped handling of `07 C0 2F 95 09 2E`
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- optionally compare whether exact `EC -> 7B` echo is timing-sensitive, since
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the host-shaped mirror path did not reach the same family
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### HE18: Exact Echo Of `07 C0 2F 95 09 2E`
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Recreate the `EC -> 7B` exact-echo branch, then immediately send the new
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`2F 95 09` family frame back exactly as seen.
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```powershell
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python scripts/serial_sequence_probe.py --port COM5 --prompt --frame "00 00 A0 00 80 7A" --frame "00 00 EC 40 30 C6" --frame "07 80 7B 50 26 D0" --frame "07 C0 2F 95 09 2E" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --repeat 2 --frame-interval 0.20 --read-after-frame 0.30 --read-after-group 0.8 --log captures/rcp-heartbeat-echo-exact-2f95092e.txt
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```
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### HE19: Host-Shaped Mirror Of `07 C0 2F 95 09 2E`
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Host-shaped checksum for `00 00 2F 95 09 ??` is `E9`.
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```powershell
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python scripts/serial_sequence_probe.py --port COM5 --prompt --frame "00 00 A0 00 80 7A" --frame "00 00 EC 40 30 C6" --frame "07 80 7B 50 26 D0" --frame "00 00 2F 95 09 E9" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --repeat 2 --frame-interval 0.20 --read-after-frame 0.30 --read-after-group 0.8 --log captures/rcp-heartbeat-echo-host-2f9509.txt
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```
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What would count as a hit:
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- any non-heartbeat response after the exact or host-shaped `2F 95 09` frame
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- a repeat of `07 C0 2F 95 09 2E`
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- any fresh family after the `2F` stage that suggests a real chained exchange
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- any sign that the `EC -> 7B -> 2F` path is the closest thing yet to a proper
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request/response ladder
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### 2026-05-13 `2F` Mirror Result
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Captures:
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- `captures/rcp-heartbeat-echo-exact-2f95092e.txt`
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- `captures/rcp-heartbeat-echo-host-2f9509.txt`
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Result summary:
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- These runs did **not** extend the `EC -> 7B -> 2F` path into a stable next
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stage.
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- Instead, group 1 shifted the `EC` selector response itself into a new sibling
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family:
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- `07 80 FB 50 26 50`
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- That happened in both runs, before the `2F` follow-up frame was even sent.
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- After that:
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- exact `07 C0 2F 95 09 2E` produced only heartbeat
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- host-shaped `00 00 2F 95 09 E9` also produced only heartbeat
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- Group 2 was heartbeat-only in both tests.
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Observed group-1 shape:
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| Step | Exact-echo run | Host-mirror run |
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| --- | --- | --- |
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| `00 00 EC 40 30 C6` | `07 80 FB 50 26 50` x2 | `07 80 FB 50 26 50` x3 |
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| `07 80 7B 50 26 D0` | heartbeat only | heartbeat only |
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| `2F` follow-up | heartbeat only | heartbeat only |
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Interpretation:
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- We did **not** get a reproducible chained reply to the `2F` stage.
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- The more important finding is that the `EC` branch itself is context-sensitive
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and can emit at least two sibling downstream families:
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- `07 80 7B 50 26 D0`
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- `07 80 FB 50 26 50`
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- That makes the `EC` branch look more like a selector into a family space than
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a strict linear ladder.
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- `07 C0 2F 95 09 2E` is still real from the earlier run, but these follow-ups
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did not confirm it as the next stable step in an ongoing exchange.
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Best current model:
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- We are getting closer to a *structured* understanding of the RCP:
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certain host-side `Ex` values reliably push it into specific response
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families.
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- But we are **not yet** at a stable "conversation" where the panel is clearly
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accepting our last reply and moving to the next deterministic turn.
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- Right now the strongest evidence is for:
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- selector-like host entries (`E8`, `E9`, `EC`)
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- family-specific downstream responses (`7A`, `7B`, `FB`)
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- occasional exact-echo sensitivity on some branches
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- but not a fully reproducible multi-turn protocol ladder yet
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### HE20: `EC` Timing / Context Split
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Try to separate whether `EC` chooses `7B` vs `FB` because of timing around the
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selector step, or because of the deeper branch context.
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#### HE20a: `EC` With Shorter Spacing
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```powershell
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python scripts/serial_sequence_probe.py --port COM5 --prompt --frame "00 00 A0 00 80 7A" --frame "00 00 EC 40 30 C6" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --repeat 2 --frame-interval 0.10 --read-after-frame 0.25 --read-after-group 0.8 --log captures/rcp-heartbeat-ec-short-spacing.txt
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```
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#### HE20b: `EC` With Longer Spacing
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```powershell
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python scripts/serial_sequence_probe.py --port COM5 --prompt --frame "00 00 A0 00 80 7A" --frame "00 00 EC 40 30 C6" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --repeat 2 --frame-interval 0.35 --read-after-frame 0.35 --read-after-group 0.8 --log captures/rcp-heartbeat-ec-long-spacing.txt
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```
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#### HE20c: `EC` Without Leading `A0`
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```powershell
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python scripts/serial_sequence_probe.py --port COM5 --prompt --frame "00 00 EC 40 30 C6" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --repeat 2 --frame-interval 0.20 --read-after-frame 0.30 --read-after-group 0.8 --log captures/rcp-heartbeat-ec-no-a0.txt
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```
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What would count as a hit:
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- one setup consistently yielding `07 80 7B 50 26 D0`
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- another setup consistently yielding `07 80 FB 50 26 50`
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- evidence that leading `A0` is part of the selector context rather than just a
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neutral primer
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### HE21: Exact Echo Of `07 80 FB 50 26 50`
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If `FB` is a real sibling branch, exact echoing it may show whether it behaves
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more like `7B` or like the inert `7A` families.
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```powershell
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python scripts/serial_sequence_probe.py --port COM5 --prompt --frame "00 00 A0 00 80 7A" --frame "00 00 EC 40 30 C6" --frame "07 80 FB 50 26 50" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --repeat 2 --frame-interval 0.20 --read-after-frame 0.30 --read-after-group 0.8 --log captures/rcp-heartbeat-echo-exact-fb502650.txt
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```
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### HE22: Host-Shaped Mirror Of `07 80 FB 50 26 50`
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Host-shaped checksum for `00 00 FB 50 26 ??` is `D7`.
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```powershell
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python scripts/serial_sequence_probe.py --port COM5 --prompt --frame "00 00 A0 00 80 7A" --frame "00 00 EC 40 30 C6" --frame "00 00 FB 50 26 D7" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --frame "00 00 00 00 80 DA" --repeat 2 --frame-interval 0.20 --read-after-frame 0.30 --read-after-group 0.8 --log captures/rcp-heartbeat-echo-host-fb5026.txt
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```
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What would count as a hit:
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- any non-heartbeat response after exact or host-shaped `FB`
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- crossover from `FB` into `2F`, `7B`, or another fresh family
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- evidence that `FB` is a meaningful downstream branch rather than just a
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selector-side variant
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### 2026-05-13 `EC` Timing And `FB` Result
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Captures:
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- `captures/rcp-heartbeat-ec-short-spacing.txt`
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- `captures/rcp-heartbeat-ec-long-spacing.txt`
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- `captures/rcp-heartbeat-ec-no-a0.txt`
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- `captures/rcp-heartbeat-echo-exact-fb502650.txt`
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- `captures/rcp-heartbeat-echo-host-fb5026.txt`
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#### HE20: Timing / Context Split
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Observed outcomes:
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| Setup | Group-1 result |
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| --- | --- |
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| short spacing (`0.10 s`) | `07 80 7B 50 26 D0` |
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| long spacing (`0.35 s`) | `07 80 7B 50 26 D0` |
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| no leading `A0` | `07 80 C0 40 30 6D` |
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Interpretation:
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- The `A0` lead-in matters a lot for the `EC` branch.
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- With `A0` present, both short and long spacing still favored
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`07 80 7B 50 26 D0`.
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- Without `A0`, `EC` collapsed back into the known heartbeat-family transient
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`07 80 C0 40 30 6D`.
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- So the best current read is that `A0` is part of the selector context for the
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`EC -> 7B/FB` family space, not just a neutral primer.
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- Timing still may matter for `7B` vs `FB`, but this batch says context matters
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more strongly than spacing in the tested range.
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#### HE21 / HE22: `FB` Echo Handling
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Observed outcomes:
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| Setup | Group-1 result |
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| --- | --- |
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| exact `07 80 FB 50 26 50` | `EC` again produced `07 80 7B 50 26 D0`; exact `FB` echo produced no new family |
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| host-shaped `00 00 FB 50 26 D7` | `EC` produced `07 80 7B 50 26 D0`; host-shaped `FB` mirror produced no new family |
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Interpretation:
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- `FB` did not behave like a meaningful next-turn reply target.
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- Both exact and host-shaped `FB` handling fell flat after the `EC` selector
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produced a `7B` response in these runs.
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- That weakens the idea that `FB` is a stable downstream branch command. It now
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looks more like a sibling family observation that can appear on the `EC`
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branch, but not something the panel predictably wants answered.
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Best current `EC` model:
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- `A0 + EC` can open a selector-like family space.
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- In that family space:
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- `7B` is the most stable downstream response so far
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- `FB` is real, but less stable and not yet actionable
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- without `A0`, `EC` falls back toward heartbeat-family behavior
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- This is closer to a controlled state map than where we started, but it is
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still not a stable multi-turn "conversation" ladder.
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@@ -243,6 +243,7 @@ confirmed Sony definition.
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| `07 80 7A 28 D3 5C` | host-shaped `E9` neighbor, group 1 | low-medium | nearby distinct `7A`-family response; suggests an `E8`/`E9` selector neighborhood |
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| `07 80 7B 50 26 D0` | host-shaped `EC` neighbor, group 1 | low-medium | new sibling family suggesting the `Ex` region is a selector-like strip |
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| `07 C0 2F 95 09 2E` | exact echo of `07 80 7B 50 26 D0`, group 1 | low-medium | possible second-stage family on the `EC -> 7B` branch |
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| `07 80 FB 50 26 50` | `EC` branch during later `2F` follow-up tests, group 1 | low-medium | sibling downstream family on the `EC` branch; reinforces selector/family behavior |
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Current caution:
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@@ -276,6 +277,14 @@ Current caution:
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- `EC` is now the first branch where the exact downstream echo looks more
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meaningful than the host-shaped mirror: exact `07 80 7B 50 26 D0` produced
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`07 C0 2F 95 09 2E`, while host-shaped `00 00 7B 50 26 57` did not.
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- Follow-up `2F` mirror tests did not extend that into a stable chained
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exchange; instead, the `EC` selector response itself drifted into the sibling
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family `07 80 FB 50 26 50`.
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- Additional `EC` timing/context tests suggest the leading `A0` is part of the
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branch context: with `A0` present, `EC` tends toward `07 80 7B 50 26 D0`; without
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`A0`, `EC` fell back to `07 80 C0 40 30 6D`.
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- Exact and host-shaped handling of `07 80 FB 50 26 50` did not yield a stable
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next-stage response.
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## What We Know
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related `7A` / `7B` downstream families.
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- The `EC -> 7B` path is currently the strongest sign that some downstream
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exact echoes may matter, even though most earlier `7A`-family echoes did not.
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- Overall, the evidence is getting stronger for selector-like host entries that
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open related response families, but weaker for a fully reproducible multi-turn
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"conversation" state.
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- At least on the `EC` branch, `A0` now looks more like part of the selection
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context than a purely generic primer.
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## What We Do Not Know
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# Sony PT2 Protocol State Map
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This document is a working state map for the Sony RCP-TX7 PT2-era control
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protocol as currently observed on the bench. It is intentionally more structural
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than [pt2-protocol-summary.md](pt2-protocol-summary.md): the goal here is to
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show how host inputs appear to move the panel between response families and
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contexts.
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This is not yet a true finite-state-machine proof. It is a practical model of
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what currently seems to change the panel's response surface.
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## How To Read This
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- `state` means an inferred protocol context, not a confirmed Sony term.
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- `stable` means reproduced across multiple clean runs.
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- `unstable` means seen more than once or clearly real, but not deterministic.
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- `one-shot` means usually group-1 or post-boot only, then gone.
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## State Layers
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The current evidence suggests the panel behavior is shaped by several layers:
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1. physical/link state
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2. host-presence / cadence state
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3. selector / query context
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4. downstream family response surface
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5. unknown session-advance / active-control state
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We have good evidence for layers 1-4. Layer 5 is still missing.
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## Baseline States
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### S0: Idle / Not Active
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Observed behavior:
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- RCP sends repeating heartbeat:
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- `00 00 00 00 80 DA`
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- LCD may remain idle or later enter `CONNECT NOT ACT`
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Known transitions:
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- host traffic can move the panel into parser-visible but still not-active
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states
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- CALL and CAM POWER can still emit panel-origin frames here
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Confidence: high
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### S1: Host Present / Cadence-Held
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Observed behavior:
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- repeating host heartbeat
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- `00 00 00 00 80 DA`
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can keep the panel out of `CONNECT NOT ACT` while traffic continues
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- this does not by itself create reusable reads or a full active session
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Known side effects:
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- some cadence patterns provoke transient families:
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- `07 80 40 40 30 ED`
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- `07 80 40 60 30 CD`
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- `07 80 C0 40 30 6D`
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Confidence: high
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## Discovery / Query Surface
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### S2: Discovery Query Window
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Canonical shape:
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```text
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00 00 00 00 80 DA
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00 00 XX 00 80 checksum
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-> 07 80 ...
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```
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Stable one-shot reads:
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- `00 -> A0` -> `07 80 68 40 30 C5`
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- `00 -> B0` -> `07 80 6C 40 30 C1`
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- `00 -> B5` -> `07 80 6D 20 D8 48`
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Properties:
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- usually one-shot after boot
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- repeating the same query often drains to heartbeat only
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- appears to be a readable/capability surface, not an activation handshake
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Confidence: high
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## Event Path
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### S3: Synthetic CALL Event Path
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Host stimulus:
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```text
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00 00 15 80 00 CF
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00 00 15 00 00 4F
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```
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Stable response:
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- `07 80 45 20 D0 68`
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Sibling seen once:
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- `07 80 45 30 D0 78`
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Properties:
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- physical CALL button not required
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- looks like a real event-path branch
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- has not led to activation or reusable reads
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Confidence: high
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## Selector-Like Context Surface
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The strongest current "state map" behavior lives here. Certain host-side values
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look less like direct commands and more like selector/context entries that open
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different downstream response families.
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### S4: `A0`-Contexted Selector Space
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Current best evidence says `A0` is not always just a neutral primer. On at
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least the `EC` branch, it appears to be part of the context that opens the
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family space.
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Observed:
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- `A0 + EC` tends to produce `7B`-family output
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- `EC` without leading `A0` falls back to `07 80 C0 40 30 6D`
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Confidence: medium-high
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## `Ex` Selector Neighborhood
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These are the clearest currently mapped selector-like host entries.
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| Host-side entry | Typical downstream result | Current read |
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| --- | --- | --- |
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| `00 00 E6 40 30 CC` | `07 80 40 40 30 ED` after later heartbeat | heartbeat-family bias |
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| `00 00 E7 40 30 CD` | `07 80 40 40 30 ED` after later heartbeat | heartbeat-family bias |
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| `00 00 E8 40 30 C2` | `07 80 7A 50 26 D1` | stable selector into `7A` family |
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| `00 00 E9 40 30 C3` | `07 80 7A 28 D3 5C` | sibling selector into related `7A` family |
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| `00 00 EA 40 30 C0` | `07 80 C0 40 30 6D` after later heartbeat | alternate heartbeat-family bias |
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| `00 00 EB 40 30 C1` | `07 80 40 40 30 ED` after later heartbeat | heartbeat-family bias |
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| `00 00 EC 40 30 C6` | `07 80 7B 50 26 D0` or `07 80 FB 50 26 50` | selector into mixed sibling family space |
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Current interpretation:
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- this is not a flat command block
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- some `Ex` values bias toward heartbeat-family transients
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- some open structured `7A` / `7B` / `FB` families
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Confidence: medium-high
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## Downstream Family Branches
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### B1: `E8 -> 7A 50 26`
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Stable branch:
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```text
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00 00 A0 00 80 7A
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00 00 E8 40 30 C2
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-> 07 80 7A 50 26 D1
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```
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What we know:
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- reproducible in group 1
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- exact echo of `07 80 7A 50 26 D1` did not advance state
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- host-shaped mirror of `7A 50 26` did not advance state
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Read:
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- `E8` is the active selector
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- `7A 50 26 D1` is a downstream family response, not yet a meaningful next host
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turn
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Confidence: medium-high
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### B2: `E9 -> 7A 28 D3`
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Stable branch:
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```text
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00 00 A0 00 80 7A
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00 00 E9 40 30 C3
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-> 07 80 7A 28 D3 5C
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```
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What we know:
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- reproducible in group 1
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- exact and host-shaped replies to `7A 28 D3 5C` did not advance state
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Read:
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- `E9` looks like a sibling selector to `E8`
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- payload differences may represent page/class selection rather than random
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drift
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Confidence: medium
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### B3: `EC -> 7B / FB`
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Observed branch space:
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```text
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00 00 A0 00 80 7A
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00 00 EC 40 30 C6
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-> 07 80 7B 50 26 D0
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or
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-> 07 80 FB 50 26 50
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```
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Important details:
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- without leading `A0`, `EC` fell back to `07 80 C0 40 30 6D`
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- short and long spacing with `A0` still favored `07 80 7B 50 26 D0`
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- exact `7B` echo once produced:
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- `07 C0 2F 95 09 2E`
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- later `2F` follow-ups did not create a stable next stage
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- exact and host-shaped `FB` handling did not create a stable next stage
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Read:
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- `EC` is the most stateful selector branch seen so far
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- `A0` seems to be part of its selection context
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- `7B` is the most stable downstream family on this branch
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- `FB` is real but currently looks like a sibling observation, not a clear reply
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target
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Confidence: medium
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## Current Transition Sketch
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|
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```text
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S0 idle/not-active
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-> host heartbeat cadence
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S1 host-present/cadence-held
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-> one-shot discovery query surface
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S2 discovery/query window
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-> selector/context entry
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S4 A0-contexted selector space
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-> E8 -> B1 (7A 50 26 family)
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-> E9 -> B2 (7A 28 D3 family)
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-> EC -> B3 (7B / FB family)
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-> E6/E7/EB -> heartbeat-family transient
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-> EA / no-A0-EC -> C0-family transient
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```
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|
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What is still missing:
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|
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- the transition from any of these branches into a stable active/session state
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- a deterministic multi-turn reply ladder
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## What Feels Stable Right Now
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|
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- RS-232 electrical layer and 6-byte frame model
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- idle heartbeat behavior
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- `CONNECT NOT ACT` not being identical to active/inactive protocol state
|
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- one-shot discovery surface
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- CALL synthetic event path
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- `Ex` neighborhood acting like a selector-like surface
|
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- `A0` mattering as branch context on at least `EC`
|
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|
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## What Still Feels Slippery
|
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|
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- exact conditions that choose `7B` vs `FB` on `EC`
|
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- whether `E8/E9/EC` are true page selectors, class selectors, or partial
|
||||
capability requests
|
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- whether any downstream family reply is actually something the host is expected
|
||||
to answer
|
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- how this selector space relates to the real session activation handshake
|
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|
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## Best Next Uses Of This Map
|
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|
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This map is meant to help us ask sharper questions, for example:
|
||||
|
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- does `A0` act as selector context on `E8` and `E9`, not just `EC`?
|
||||
- do nearby `Ex` values continue the family strip?
|
||||
- do host `state/value` bytes on `A0` or `Ex` shift the selected family?
|
||||
- is there a separate session-maintenance stream that must coexist with these
|
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selector reads?
|
||||
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